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Episode 249 – Return of the Ravnica or The Guildpact Strikes Back

Return to Ravnica

The full set has been revealed, so we have to spend a nice long time talking about it!  You’ve come to expect this though, right?  All the shows out there are doing it, man.  Of course, we’ve been doing it longer, but that’s beside the point, right?

But we’re not going to start out with the awesome new stuff, no no.  We have to go back to the Commander banned list update, because we missed something the first time around.  Here’s a link so you can follow along:
http://www.mtgcommander.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12253

The Intro Packs for Return to Ravnica have been revealed, so you should probably check those out too.  They seem pretty good with just a cursory glance:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1067

Also, our resident Rules Guy gets blue-balled by a less-than-interesting Rules Update:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/214b

And of course, the full set for RTR is here:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/article.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/returntoravnica/cig

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Golgari Charming

Courtesy of Jars from The Mana Pool forums

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15 Comments

  1. October 1, 2012 at 8:57 am | Permalink

    Why would you choose Selesnya hookers?
    “POPulate? I thought their ability was COPul…”

    • October 1, 2012 at 10:13 am | Permalink

      The worst part is the freaky results, re: Selesnya Evangel, Vitu-Ghazi Guildmage, etc.

  2. Elliott
    October 1, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    “Let the other person be you.”

    Words to live by.

  3. John A.
    October 1, 2012 at 11:05 pm | Permalink

    So apparently, here’s what I learned on the guilds for this set, and Mike or any other Mana Pool dork would correct me if I’m wrong, it’d be nice

    The leader of the Golgari Swarm guild was originally Svogthir, Jarad is the new guild master.

    Azorius, previously led by the now deceased Grand Arbiter Augustin IV, who was killed during an attack by the then dimir guild leader Szadek. Leonos ll and Isperia now lead the Azorius Senate.

    As for Rakdos, The current guild leader is the parun as well, Rakdos (duh)

    Izzet, founded and currently led by Niv-Mizzet, the second guild to have the same parun and leader.

    Finally we have Selesnya, founded by Mat’Selesnya, led by Chrous of the Conclave originally who is now deceased, and is currently lead by Trostani

    My donation of knowledge to the Mana Pool, good day

    • October 2, 2012 at 10:26 am | Permalink

      Yeah, that’s right except for the Golgari thing. If I remember correctly the necromancer Svogthir was the original Parun, but at the time of Ravnica: City of Guilds the guild leadership was caught in a power struggle between Savra and the Sisters of Stone Death (with Savra having the upper hand and the most influence).

  4. Aaron
    October 2, 2012 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    The spin-down life counter was a lie. You/we just got a 20-sided die. I believe those are completely different things.

    • October 2, 2012 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

      I don’t know if this is a joke, but I’ll respond as if it weren’t. If you look at the numbers, you’ll see they wrap sequentially around the die, rather than being scattered and opposed in a way that gives a roughly equal numerical weight for any two arbitrarily chosen hemispheres. This arrangement is what makes it a spin-down instead of a standard d20.

  5. Timswar
    October 3, 2012 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    Golgari Charm reminds me of Spike from Gremlins. Gremlins 3: Gremlins Take Detroit.

  6. dan
    October 3, 2012 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    “Is AEther Adept too good?” -Chewie

    I for one would not like to see my opponent bounce my newly scavenged beater or, even worse, my populatable token, for three mana and get a guy. Heck, Mist Raven was nuts in AVR limited without being a flying Nekrataal.

  7. Myke Okuhara
    October 3, 2012 at 10:57 pm | Permalink

    I think I’ve just had the best bad idea for an great awful deck that will win lose me a lot of games: Epic Experiment and Channel. Turn 4, pay 19 life, see what the hell happens. It seems like a very Izzet way to play.

    • October 4, 2012 at 9:23 am | Permalink

      And now I finally know what deck to build with my set of Channels.

      • Myke Okuhara
        October 6, 2012 at 2:31 am | Permalink

        Quick rules question on this, actually. When will an opponent get a chance to respond to the spells cast by Epic Experiment (if at all)? Would any response have to be to the casting of Epic Experiment itself, before they even know what spells are coming?

        • October 6, 2012 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

          Epic Experiment doesn’t make the spells resolve immediately, it just has you cast them. You make all the choices, pay all the costs (getting a free pass on the mana costs), and put them onto the stack. Your opponent has a chance to respond after Epic Experiment resolves and all the spells are still waiting on the stack.

  8. October 4, 2012 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    Hey, that looks familiar..

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