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Episode 226 – Avacyn Restored and Poetry

AVR Walkers

We’re not even screwing around this episode, as we dive right into the Avacyn Restored previews.  Of course by now everyone has heard about the Soratami planeswalker that we speculated about at the end of the last episode.  A mere 2 hours later she was revealed in her entirety.  Then they threw a dapper devil dude at us!  Of course we covered both of those, along with everything else that had been previewed by the time we recorded!  Good stuff, man.

But when Brian unexpectedly had to leave just before we got to the inverted Zombie Apocalypse angel, something else happened.  After finishing up the previewed cards, we had a bit of a poetry reading.  It was a poem by our own KhaosKontrol over on the Mana Pool/Cardshark forums, and it was so awesome that we just had to read it on air.  Hope you all enjoy it as much as we did.

Sprinkled throughout the rest of the show, Dirk has a strangest voice problem ever, Mike and Chewie recap some streaming shenanigans, Chewie recounts some powerful parental advice, and there are many dick jokes left unsaid.  Thanks for listening!

Intro & Outro Music – Diamond by Swift – http://www.swift-band.com
Break Music – All I Need is a Miracle by Mike and the Mechanics
Background Music – Mantis’ Hymn by Konami Computer Entertainment Sound Team Japan

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  1. Teemu Helasharju
    April 23, 2012 at 9:07 am | Permalink

    Cathar’s crusade + avenger of Zendikar = bonkers? Also the blue doubleflicker is going to make avacyn limited combat hellish w/ the instant repairing.

  2. April 23, 2012 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    Things that make a Mana Pool episode great: Dirk discovering the awesomeness of a card he’s never seen before, sweet Angel or Zombie cans, Brian loving a card that is on no one else’s radar, and Mike pizza-mouthing.

    Yes, you are the all-encompassing magic podcast. That’s GREAT!!

  3. Jonnie
    April 24, 2012 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

    Tibalt is a complete baller and let me explain to you you why that is.

    Mike is correct in that you have to build a deck around him, but to be a bit more specific you have to build a deck around his +1 ability (maybe flashback.dec or a Goblin Welder deck). The +1 ability allows you to set up your deck for the late game, all the while building his loyalty. This is where is -4 and -6 abilities step in. Opponents will see Tibalt building towards the -6 and poop a little and they may try to attack him. Having completed his job Tibalt can hit an opponent will a Sudden Impact and then get the hell out of Dodge. As far as the Insurrection being telegraphed. It is, but the primary way to deal with Planeswalkers is to attack them, with creatures, that you have to cast, that Tibalt can Insurrect. Do you see what he did there?

    So basically Tibalt is an early game deck enabler and an alternate win-condition in the mid-late game (this is also known as being AWESOME).

    As far as 60-card decks go the reason you want to keep them at 60 cards is not because of the probability of drawing a specific card (which as Mike stated is actually a small difference), but because of the value of each card.

    At any point in a game every card in your deck could have a “usefulness score” associated with it, that gives an indication of how valuable any given card would be. Over the long term each card would have an “average usefulness score” (AUS). The aim of good deck building is to maximise your average usefulness score (so that on average your cards are better than your opponents).

    If you have a 70 card deck there are 10 worst cards (the ones with the lowest AUS). In theory a deck without these 10 cards will be better than the one with them because it will have a higher AUS per card. This is why I keep all of my decks to 60 cards.

    • April 24, 2012 at 9:36 pm | Permalink

      I’m aware of the AUS principle, and it’s just a restatement of the probability angle. Both of them are about the expected value of your next card draw, whether that “value” is a usefulness measure or the actual identity of the card. As I said in my thought, having an oversized deck where the inclusion of the “extra” cards preserves overall consistency doesn’t have that same effect on the probabilities (or AUS) that just piling on whatever does.

      Again, just in case I’m misunderstood, this is definitely not me saying “hey, let’s all play 80 cards”. My new insight on the topic is essentially that for encouraging the best-practice of building 60-card decks, the statistics-based arguments are somewhat lacking, and the emphasis should be more about focus to the theme/archetype and careful consideration of each individual card that gets included.

  4. Myke Okuhara
    April 24, 2012 at 10:37 pm | Permalink

    Dirk’s reactions to these cards are classic. I’m only sorry we didn’t get to hear him reading the green card to end all green cards: Primal Surge. Here, Dirk, put your entire deck onto the battlefield.

    I’m wondering what the best ratio would be; maybe two Primal Surges, two Channels and 54 permanents?

    • Austin
      April 24, 2012 at 10:46 pm | Permalink

      Question! Why arn’t you on the show already?

      • Myke Okuhara
        April 24, 2012 at 11:13 pm | Permalink

        Some people have a face made for radio. Unfortunately, I have a voice made for television… wait, that doesn’t make any sense.

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