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Episode 200 – Blame It On the Listeners

Classy 200This is it!  We’ve hit #200!  Because we couldn’t do it without all of you out there, we decided to jump through a lot of hoops in an effort to get some listener participation.  If you’ll recall, several weeks ago we put a bunch of questions on the website.  One was a poll about which decks of ours you guys liked, and the rest were asking for suggestions for cards of a particular type.  Well we took that information and came up with a bizarre Planechasey kind of thing.  We made a stack of all the cards you guys suggested and shuffled it up.  After 3 turns of buildup we drew from the listener-supplied stack along with our normal draw.  Whatever card we drew we HAD to play by our next turn.  No discarding it, no skipping out on it, nothing like that.  If you submitted it, we HAD to play it if at all possible.  Not only that, but when we played it we read off who submitted it and what their comment was about it.  So if you’re lucky, you might just hear yourself on the show!

Forgive us if we seem rushed, we recorded this the day of the Innistrad Prerelease and had to get the games finished with enough time for us to actually make it to the tournament.  And be sure you listen to the quick intro about Extra Life!  I’m uploading this after midnight the day before, so I really need to get some freakin’ sleep.  If you’re hearing this on Saturday, October 15, then you can check out the uStream the Extra Life game-playing here:

Donate to Dustin’s Extra Life page! Help out some sick kids! – http://extra-life.org/participant/vognasty

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Break Music – Whack It by Swift

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  1. Myke Okuhara
    October 15, 2011 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    Congrats on 200, Mana Pool! And here’s to another 2000 more. That was not a tyop. Well, that was a typo just now, but the thing before that, wasn’t, uh, let me start again…

  2. Jace Beleren
    October 15, 2011 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    Happy 200, guys! 😀 I’m so glad the longevity of this show is unquestionable. From episode 1 up until now, you guys have grown up quite a lot. Wait, did I just say that?

  3. SkeetWo
    October 16, 2011 at 12:47 am | Permalink

    Congrats on 200 episodes.

  4. October 16, 2011 at 6:32 am | Permalink

    200 episodes. That’s insane, I have been with you for 99 episodes now. Congratulations are in order. May the next 100 bring you an exclusive preview.

    And Mike. Discard your hand, bitch.

    • Mike
      October 16, 2011 at 9:29 am | Permalink

      I didn’t really have a choice, jackass. =P

  5. Daniel Adams
    October 16, 2011 at 10:17 am | Permalink

    Thanks for all the fun and frolics over the 200, and may you have many more. This episode was ridiculous! As much as Sam may not have liked it for some reason ;D. I apologise for my Wall of Text posts! I had no clue what it would be used for, well that’s a lie, I kinda did. But If your going to do something right do it -wrong- and then right again.


    Much love for all you do. Kitchen Table Dorks of the World salute you!

  6. Magnor Criol
    October 17, 2011 at 12:00 am | Permalink

    That was *fantastic*, especially the EDH game. Talk about a comeback, kicked in the nuts several times by the listener cards and Mike *almost* pulled a win out anyhow. If you hadn’t had to blow that Word of Command to stop Shahrazad it might have ended very differently.

    I also like that both of the cards that y’all saw from me were drawn by Mike. Ironic, since it was probably finding Mike on T/O that got me listening to y’all. (Heheh. “Boobular.”)

    I think it’d be awesome if y’all kept these around and did this again sometime later. It was really exciting, a lot of fun – incredibly swingy, yes, but fun – and there’s still lots of cards to show off, right? Codify the rules a little bit more (suspend, morph, etc) and remove a few specific cards (Shahrazad) and it’ll be gravy. Probably only one game per session to prevent mental meltdown…but still.

    Oh yeah, and congrats!

  7. Austin
    October 17, 2011 at 8:34 pm | Permalink

    Keep that stack of listener cards.
    I use Echo Mage’s ability on all comments.
    And yes Mike, discard your hand!

  8. October 17, 2011 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    Congrats on 200 episodes.

    I really like the stack of cards idea.

    My first response when Brian drew Recycle was: “What kind of jackass submits Recycle?” A few seconds later: “Oh, I’m that kind of jackass… makes sense”

  9. Dylan
    October 18, 2011 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    Teeka’s Dragon isn’t legendary???

    XD Congrats guys!

  10. Shep_Dawg
    October 19, 2011 at 8:08 am | Permalink

    Simply amazing episode! The listener stack idea was so cool!

  11. Jolo Vergara de Jesus
    October 19, 2011 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    congrats for the 200 episodes! my cards got played! sick! CRYPT OF AGADEEM being the first one played…then AFTERLIFE, and also i think i was the one who submitted HYPERGENESIS? nice…just a qquestion, Mike was playing Fumiko the Lowblood right? mono red edh? how did CRYPT OF AGADEEM get to activate its ability? or did it?

    • October 19, 2011 at 7:28 pm | Permalink

      We instituted a rule that covered that. Since the activation was colorless, that didn’t matter so much. And instead of making black mana, it just made colorless. That’s the same thing that would happen in EDH if Mike somehow gained control of someone else’s Crypt.

      • Jonnie
        October 20, 2011 at 6:47 pm | Permalink

        I assume the rules were something to the effect of you can cast the card anytime you normally could, but you could pay it’s CMC instead of its mana cost, and you could activate any abilites by paying their total cost. And then there were some vague guidelines as to whether or not the card was in your hand etc. that largely depended on the specific card.

        I have been thinking about implementing something similar to this since listening to the episode using my cube, although since there is a colour balance in it I would probably seperate by colour and allow people to draw from whichever colour (or colourless) they wanted, and then just have normal casting restrictions/costs. Also, I think the best way for it to be implemented in the future would to have the card exiled face-down, and it gets exiled as soon as it leaves the stack. This version would also not require anyone to actually cast the card they draw.

        I think if you guys were to play it in the future it probably needs to be a bit more balanced, as some of our cards choices severly hampered certain players (One With Nothing, Recycle) or gave them a major advantage (Ulamog). While some randomness is cool, losing because of something you had literally no control over can be infuriating. I would lean to having more of the super-bombs, and no severly dibalatating cards. This would still lead to a random game, but it would be about big plays rather than over-coming obstacles which seems to be more in the spirit of casual magic. As for cards that negatively affect players, I think they have a place in this sort of chaos stack, they just need to affect everyone, or affect all opponents (rather than singlingly out they player that drew it or an opponent), so cards like Wrath of God or Delerium Skiens could go in but One With Nothing could not.

        If I get around to trying something like this with my playgroup I will report back and let you guys know how it went, thanks for the idea!

        • Mike
          October 21, 2011 at 11:13 am | Permalink

          The three hard rules were:
          1 – Players don’t start drawing from the pile until after the 3rd “round”.
          2 – After pulling a card, you have to play it without paying its mana cost, unless it’s actually impossible to do so. If you can’t it gets exiled.
          3 – Additional costs and costs of abilities can be paid with any color of mana.

          Everything else we just dealt with and/or reasoned out as it came along. Brian had in mind a very sophisticated system of details, but we only bothered with those details when they became relevant.

          • Mike
            October 21, 2011 at 11:15 am | Permalink

            Why can’t I edit my own comments? Sounds like some communist hippie bullcrap to me.

            Anyway, #2 should be more specific, saying you have to play the card some time before you pull the next one, etc.

  12. Banzai_Tree
    October 20, 2011 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    Congrats on 200 episodes! 🙂

    Also, I’m truly, deeply, sorry that I inflicted the horror that is Sensei’s Divining Top on you guys. 😉

  13. Dirk Pijnenburg
    October 21, 2011 at 2:40 am | Permalink

    Great episode! I loved to hear my cards played.

    Congrats to your 200th episode and may there be many more.

  14. Jolo Vergara de Jesus
    October 28, 2011 at 6:44 am | Permalink

    guys…you need to name this format..or forgive me if you already did…and play it again! hopefully with 60-card decks..

    btw this is crazyknight27…im just too lazy to replace my real name 🙂

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